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Das ist nur Abhängig vom Sitzabstand und deiner Sehschärfe. Ein Arbeitskollege hat auch nen 50er in 4K. Sitzt ca. 2m weg mit der Couch. Ich würd mir ehrlich gesagt nicht's anderes ins Haus holen bei einem Neukauf. Selbst wenn du nicht direkt die Pixel zählen kannst, wirkt das Bild einfach cleaner und schärfer.
 
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Soll auch ein spitzen Gerät sein der XE85!
Aber wenns ums warten geht, irgendwann ist einfach die Zeit Nägel mit Köpfen zu machen ... denn man wartet und wartet von Aktion zu Aktion und dann kommt schon die neue Serie raus und wartet wieder auf die ... usw. :D

Aber ich kenn das :P


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Das ist bei den Hisense Modellen die ich im Auge hab auch so, nur 2 von 4 HDMI können 4K
Nachdem ich haber nur die PS4 Pro hab und mir wenn dann mal ein Fernseher da ist noch ein neues AppleTV mit 4K holen werde ... reichen mir glaube ich die Anschlüsse.

Mein Verstärker kann nämlich auch kein 4K dh. Ich muss alles am Fernseher anschließen und dann per Toslink die Audiosignale weitergeben ... naja geht alles iwie :P

PS: gutes neues :)


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Dir auch ein gutes neues :)

Hatte jetzt letztendlich so die Nase voll vom ewigen TVs vergleichen und auf Angebote warten und habe spontan bei Euronics den Samsung QLED Q6 in 55 Zoll für 999€ bestellt. Der ist min. gleichwertig mit der MU8009 Serie und aktuell dank dem Angebot günstiger
 
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Nvidia unveils Big Format Gaming Displays: 65-inch 120Hz G-Sync 4K monitors - BFGDs are premium PC displays for the living room.

Nvidia has revealed a new range of ultra high-end, 65-inch gaming monitors designed for the living room, dubbed BFGDs - or Big Format Game Displays.

Working initially in combination with Asus, Acer and HP, Nvidia's technology features a 4K panel operating at 120Hz with G-Sync technology, paired with HDR functionality with 1000 nits peak brightness and a DCI-P3 colour gamut. The firm is also promising low latency, with response more in line with cutting-edge PC monitors as opposed to the more laggy flat-panels typically found in more traditional 4K flat panel televisions.

Further sweetening the deal is that Nvidia is integrating its Shield Android TV streamer into these monitors, meaning access to GeForce Now cloud gaming, all the major streaming video platforms (including Netflix and Amazon). With the utilisation of G-Sync, Nvidia promises that media - not just games - will automatically refresh at the source frequency, meaning that movies will switch the panel to 24Hz, for example (although many screens can do this already).

Nvidia is promising compatibility with standard games consoles (whether they support HDR or not), effectively confirming that HDMI ports are included on the displays, in combination with whatever solution Nvidia chooses to power through 4K gaming content at 120Hz. By extension, this support for standard HD and UHD sources means that set-top boxes for standard HD and UHD TV content should work just fine.

With specs pushed to the max in all areas - not least in terms of screen-sizes - we should expect premium price-points for the BFGDs, and it's to be expected bearing in mind that the FreeSync-like HDMI 2.1 variable refresh technology should start to appear in consumer-level 4K displays over the next year. G-Sync has always been positioned as the premium option in the PC display space, and Nvidia is clearly looking to do the same with living room screens. From our perspective, while G-Sync may command a gold standard in terms of its feature set and performance, the proliferation of FreeSync screens and the upcoming arrival of HDMI 2.1 variable refresh for consumer 4K TVs presents a strong argument for the green team to embrace both standards.

One aspect of the announcement that did surprise us is that Nvidia has partnered with traditional PC monitor manufacturers for this new initiative, as opposed to consumer display giants such as Samsung and LG. Nvidia clearly takes pride in the quality of its validated panels, but we're going to be fascinated to see how these screens compare to the likes of OLED technology, which has proven to be a superb fit for gaming, with prices on screens like the excellent LG OLED B7 gradually coming down to more realistic levels.

And on the flip-side, as exciting as BFGDs are, we still believe that there's a yawning chasm in the monitor market for 32-inch to 42-inch desktop monitors with exactly the feature-set being rolled out for these living room monsters. Our fingers are crossed that more reasonably sized offerings (MRSGDs?) will appear in the fullness of time.

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Bin auf den Preis und weitere Größen gespannt.
 
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4000€ sag ich.
Der Acer X27 soll irgendwann in den nächsten Monaten erscheinen. 27 Zoll UHD 144Hz G-Sync HDR.
Kostenpunkt: 2000€
Asus hat einen gleich ausgestatteten Monitor in der Pipeline.

Mit den BFGDs bekommen wir exakt das nur größer und eben 24hz weniger, aber das ist ja wayne.
 
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Dir auch ein gutes neues :)

Hatte jetzt letztendlich so die Nase voll vom ewigen TVs vergleichen und auf Angebote warten und habe spontan bei Euronics den Samsung QLED Q6 in 55 Zoll für 999€ bestellt. Der ist min. gleichwertig mit der MU8009 Serie und aktuell dank dem Angebot günstiger
Und, wie bist du zufrieden ?


Mit meinem LG bin ich nach wie vor super zufrieden, ab und zu hängt er sich auf wenn sich das Inpug Signal ändert habe ich das Gefühl, oder HDR ein und aus und eingeschaltet wird. Passiert mir öfter im Multiplayer von Call of Duty.
 
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Und, wie bist du zufrieden ?


Mit meinem LG bin ich nach wie vor super zufrieden, ab und zu hängt er sich auf wenn sich das Inpug Signal ändert habe ich das Gefühl, oder HDR ein und aus und eingeschaltet wird. Passiert mir öfter im Multiplayer von Call of Duty.
Mich würde es auch interessieren ein paar Erfahrungsberichte über Qled Geräte zu lesen. Die Technologie wird ja als potentieller Oled Rivale gehandhabt.

Frage aber nur aus reiner Neugier bin mit meinem Pansonic immer noch sehr zufrieden, außer das er mir wie bereits weiter oben gepostet jetzt zu klein ist.

Hätte nie gedacht, dass ich mal behaupten würde, das 55 Zoll zu klein ist. Luxusproblem hoch 3. :shock::p.

Beim nächsten Mal wird es wohl ein 65 Zöller werden. Aber das ist erst in vielen Jahren ein Thema. Dann sind vielleicht sogar schon 75 Zoll Geräte in 8K für erschwingliche Preise eine realistische Option.
 
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Bisher macht der Q6 einen sehr guten Eindruck. Bild ist sehr klar, tolle Farben und in meinen Augen tiefes schwarz. Input Lag einwandfrei. OS deutlich fixer als bei meinem Sony TV.

Der Q6 ist in meinen Augen ein deutliches Upgrade zu meinem Sony KD65XD7004 von 2016,nur leider 10 Zoll kleiner und damit nur für mein Hobbyraum
 
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Samsung caused quite a sir when they demonstrated 'The Wall' at their CES 2018 First Look event.

It was the world's first modular TV but more importantly it also used self-emmisive Micro LED panels. That meant every single pixel in the 146" screen was composed of red, green and blue LEDs. This has clearly been Samsung's endgame for the last few years, ever since they abandoned development of their own version of OLED. The adoption of their QLED range of LED LCD TVs last year was obviously meant to be a stop-gap and the same will be true in 2018 but the manufacturer finally laid out their Micro LED roadmap, with the promise of actual consumer sets in the 'near future'.

There have been conflicting reports from CES, with some suggesting that Samsung plan to release Micro LED sets next year or even later this year. However in a private closed door session with Samsung, they actually said that Micro LED would arrive in the 'near future'. When pressed for a more specific timescale they said anywhere between one and nine years but wouldn't be drawn into anything specific. The reason for their reluctance to commit, is that they are still evaluating the best way to deliver the key benefits of Micro LED, which include absolute blacks, wider colour gamuts and very high brightness.

Samsung are still testing which combination works best for Micro LED, so it could be delivered using a blue LED in each pixel and quantum dot red, green and blue filters. Alternatively Samsung might go for the full self-emissive option of red, green and blue quantum LEDs in each pixel. Ultimately the approach that Samsung take will depend on factors like production costs and yields, the desired colour gamut and the peak brightness. However once they are able to deliver Micro LED in a cost-effective manner, the technology will be a genuine game changer.

Why is it a game changer? Well Micro LED can theoretically deliver deep blacks, a peak brightness of 10,000nits and the full Rec.2020 colour gamut. OLED currently offers the best picture quality but is unlikely to ever deliver a peak brightness of more than 1,000nits. It also has possible image retention, screen burn and lifespan issues, none of which would affect a Micro LED screen. So Samsung are obviously keen to get Micro LED to the point where they can produce the panels at a sensible price.

The modular nature of the 'The Wall' also means that you could theoretically create a screen of any size or aspect ratio. Samsung wouldn't comment on the resolution or size of the modules but the 146-inch version at the show had a resolution of 4K, which suggests Samsung have a way to go before they can deliver a planned 75-inch 4K Micro LED screen.

In the meantime there will be a new flagship model that uses an 8K panel and micro-array local dimming. Once again Samsung wouldn't comment on the exact number of zones, other than to say it was over 10,000 but the new TV will be able to deliver 4,000nits of peak brightness and 100% of DCI-P3, so that means the TV will be able to tone map almost all current high dynamic range content on a 1:1 basis.

You might be wondering why Samsung are using an 8K panel when there is no native 8K content and, in the absence of HDMI 2.1, it couldn't accept an 8K signal even if there was one available. However the manufacturers often begin offering TVs with higher resolutions before the native content is available, just think of all the 4K TVs that were released before there was any 4K content. Samsung believe that the extra resolution and their AI (Artificial Intelligence) upscaling can deliver superior upscaled images. The processor will analyse the incoming signal and, using a database of images, it will upscale the content. The AI aspect is that the processor learns and expands the database over time, to deliver even better scaling. The result will be a TV that delivers detail creation, edge resolution, noise reduction and jaggy free images.

Samsung's new flagship TV boasts an improved optical design, with a dynamic peaking drive to deliver better peak luminance, superior blacks and less blooming. There is also phase deviation to improve off-axis performance, along with a black layer and an anti-reflection layer. The TV analyses the content through scene classification and there's a separately controlled greyscale to minimise blooming. Samsung showed a scene from La La Land on their new TV and also on an OLED and the dark scenes looked very impressive, easily the equal of the OLED and the off-axis performance was vastly superior to previous Samsung models. When the scene became brighter, the blacks weren't as good as the OLED but the overall image was brighter, with the Samsung able to deliver a much higher APL.

However the lack of blooming was impressive and whilst it might still be an LCD TV, it was easily the best picture I have ever seen from an LCD TV. Samsung may be going to extraordinary lengths to essentially mimic the performance of an OLED but the results were there to see. The new TV will also include an AutoCal feature for use with CalMAN and Samsung have added controls for adjusting the CMS (colour management system) at 50%, 75% and 100%. Samsung also plan to add a number of features that include support for eARC (enhanced audio return channel) and VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) with an input lag of just 15ms, which is great news for gamers.

Finally the new TV supports HDR10+, which adds dynamic metadata to the HDR signal, thus allowing for an improved experience on less capable TVs. Somewhat ironically, the TV that Samsung were using for the demo was actually very good in terms of HDR, so the benefits of dynamic metadata were rather limited. However HDR10+ has been added to the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray specs and owners of Samsung's UBD-M9500 and UBD-M9000 players will be delighted to discover that the company plans to update them to HDR10+ later in the year.

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Wenn die Ersatzlampe meines X35 in hoffentlich ferner Zukunft ihr Leben aushaucht, könnte das meine nächste Investition in einen Bildgeber werden.
 
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Hallo zusammen,

Ich habe nach langen hin und her mir gestern nun auch einen neuen Fernseher gekauft.

Letztendlich ist es jetzt ein
LG 55SJ800V geworden.
Die vergleichbaren Samsung oder Sony wären um ca. 300€ teurer gewesen.
Ich weis er hat ein IPS Panel und die anderen ein VA, aber wir werden sehen :)
Ich hoffe ich bekomm ihn im Laufe der Woche ... werde mich dann nochmal melden :)


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Hallo zusammen,

Ich habe nach langen hin und her mir gestern nun auch einen neuen Fernseher gekauft.

Letztendlich ist es jetzt ein
LG 55SJ800V geworden.
Die vergleichbaren Samsung oder Sony wären um ca. 300€ teurer gewesen.
Ich weis er hat ein IPS Panel und die anderen ein VA, aber wir werden sehen :)
Ich hoffe ich bekomm ihn im Laufe der Woche ... werde mich dann nochmal melden :)


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Den habe ich ja auch. Bin super zufrieden <3
 
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